From htf@ipp-garching.mpg.de Fri Jun 6 16:26:41 1997 Received: from sat.ipp-garching.mpg.de by morgana.mat.uc.pt via ESMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) for id QAA03463; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 16:25:57 +0100 Received: from spcfnh (spcfnh.aug.ipp-garching.mpg.de [130.183.54.201]) by sat.ipp-garching.mpg.de (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id RAA116407; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 17:25:34 +0200 Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 17:25:32 +0200 (MET DST) From: Helmut Faugel TE X-Sender: htf@spcfnh To: qi bao cc: Budi Dwisakti , vbelet@lsumc.edu, Rui Pedro Mendes Salgueiro Subject: Re: B&H to the UK In-Reply-To: <3397FB2E.5B9@nimr.mrc.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: R Hello all! I'm sorry, but I do not have enough time to reply to each mail seperatly. 1. It does only make sense to order from german mailorder companies if you life in the EU, because there are no taxes and no costums that have to be paid, and the costs for shiping are much lower (I remember that the shiping of an EOS 1N, 70-200/2.8, 300/4.0, 100/2.8 Macro, 35/2.0, 28/2.8 and some small things would have added over 300 Dollar to the bill!) 2. W"urzburger Fotoversand does have a WWW-page, it is located at http://www.wfv.de but it seems the do have some troubles. 3. Ofcourse there are other mailorder companies here in germany, but WFV seems to me is one of the best (like B+H in NYC) for lenses and cameras the offer a additional year of warrenty and so on. I have ordered a Canon EOS 5, EF 35/2.0, EF 50/1.8 II, 1.4x TC, 2x TC, Metz MZ 40-2, Olympus G-40 (flash for Olympus IS-1000), Tokina 80-200/2.8 for Minolta MD at this company and haven't had any problem. Foto Oehling (sp?) in Mainz is also a good source. Also no problems with the things I ordered, eg Lowepro Phototrekker, Olympus IS-100S set, Tokina 17/4 and 400/5.6 SL for Minolta MD. And there is one black sheep in the crowd called Foto Brenner, having the cheapest stuff but it can happen that you get items without warrenty cards, or the things are used etc. I bought my Canon EF 85/1.8 USM (DM 699.-), EF 200/2.8 L USM (DM 1298.-) at this company, but the did not sent me the ordered EF 28/2.8 the do not even tell my that was not on stock. The EF 20/2.8 USM I ordered by them last time had some dust on the front element looked a bit like a demonstraion lens, but is fine. Some people in de.rec.fotografie mentioned the got lenses or cameras without warrenty cards, I got all lenses with them. Addresses: W"uerburger Fotoversand Tel.: 0049 / 931 / 970 88 00 Postfach 6847 0049 / 931 / 970 88 28 D-97018 W"urzburg Fax.: 0049 / 931 / 970 88 50 OEHLING* Tel.: 0049 / 61 31 / 28 11 44 Ludwigstrasse 2 Fax.: 0049 / 61 31 / 28 11 88 D-55116 Mainz There also other stores, but I've forgotten the latest issue of ColorFoto which contains them, sorry! 4. Before you are ordering something try to contact the company and ask about the the following things (I don't know if the people at the phone do speak english, so I would send them a fax): Can you deliver inside the EU? How much are the costs for delivery? Does the warrenty cover the whole EU or only germany? 5. Handbooks are normally in german, thats bad when you are buying a camera or flash. It doesn't matter if you by a lens because most of the paper included at lenses is multilingual. The work around for camera handbooks are for example the 'Laterna Magica' books. 6. What else? Hm, some of you are interested in prices (no wounder why, I have been in the UK a few times ...). I'm also posting the prices that Adorama advertised in Outdoor Photographer May/97. W"urzburger Fotoversand(DEM) Adorama (USD) CANON EOS 500 N 539.- EOS 500 N QD 639.- EOS 50 E 859.- EOS 50 E QD 949.- EOS 5 1179.- EOS 5 QD 1279.- EOS 1 N 3298.- EOS 1 N HS 3749.- EOS 1 N RS 4198.- EF 17-35/2.8 L USM 2999.- 1529.- EF 20-35/3.5-4.5 USM 1049.- 449.95 EF 28-70/2.8 L USM 2999.- 1339.- EF 28-105/3.5-4.5 USM 649.- 309.95 EF 35-135/4.5-5.6 USM 499.- 234.95 EF 35-350/3.5-5.6 L USM 4299.- 1999.- EF 70-200/2.8 L USM 2999.- 1439.- EF 75-300/4.5-5.6 USM II 479.- 239.95 EF 75-300/4.5-5.6 IS USM 1099.- 529.95 EF 14/2.8 L USM 5199.- 2139.- EF 15/2.8 Fish Eye 1749.- 689.95 EF 20/2.8 USM 1199.- 494.95 EF 24/2.8 769.- 354.95 EF 24/3.5 TS-E 2749.- 1369.- EF 28/2.8 439.- 206.95 EF 28/1.8 USM 969.- 489.95 EF 35/2.0 599.- 285.- EF 45/2.8 TS-E 2749.- 1369.- EF 50/1.4 USM 789.- 359.95 EF 50/1.8 II 169.- 74.95 EF 50/1.0 L USM 5349.- 2529.- EF 50/2.5 Macro 689.- 339.95 Life Size Converter 389.- 229.95 EF 85/1.2 L USM 4098.- 1869.95 EF 85/1.8 USM 789.- 369.95 EF 90/2.8 TS-E 2749.- 1299.- EF 100/2.8 Macro 1299.- 588.- EF 135/2.0 L USM 1999.- 1049.- EF 135/2.8 SF 699.- 384.95 EF 180/3.5 USM Macro 3369.- 1629.- EF 200/2.8 L USM II 1639.- 714.95 EF 200/1.8 L USM 9098.- 4499.- EF 300/4.0 L USM 2399.- 1089.- EF 300/4.0 L USM IS 3249.- EF 300/2.8 L USM 8999.- 4599.- EF 400/5.6 L USM 3149.- 1469.- EF 400/2.8 L USM II 15149.- 7549.- EF 500/4.5 L USM 12959.- 5799.- EF 600/4.0 L USM 20999.- 9199.- EF 1.4x TC 789.- 419.95 EF 2x TC 699.- 329.95 Minolta DYNAX 300 si 369.- DYNAX 300 si QD 469.- DYNAX 500 si 469.- DYNAX 500 si QD 549.- DYNAX 500 si super 529.- DYNAX 500 si super QD 619.- DYNAX 600 si 799.- 419.95 DYNAX 600 si QD 899.- DYNAX 700 si 949.- DYNAX 700 si QD 1049.- AF 28-85/3.5-4.5 849.- 419.95 AF 28-70/2.8 2399.- 964.95 AF 28-80/4.0-5.6 289.- 139.95 AF 28-105/3.5-4.5 649.- 339.95 AF 35-70/3.5-4.5 149.- 74.95 AF 70-210/4.0-5.6 299.- 139.95 AF 75-300/4.5-5.6 379.- 264.95 AF 80-200/2.8 APO 2499.- 1249.95 AF 100-300/4.5-5.6 APO 879.- 449.95 AF 100-400/4.5-6.7 APO 1449.- AF 16/2.8 1649.- 729.95 AF 20/2.8 1299.- 549.95 AF 24/2.8 829.- 319.95 AF 28/2.8 429.- 169.95 AF 28/2.0 1369.- 399.95 AF 50/1.7 219.- 79.95 AF 50/1.4 449.- 229.95 AF 50/2.8 Macro 949.- 384.95 AF 50/3.5 Macro 549.- 229.95 AF 100/2.0 1199.- 439.95 AF 100/2.8 Macro 1599.- 614.95 AF 100/2.8 Softfocus 1449.- 639.95 AF 200/2.8 APO 2179.- 899.95 AF 300/2.8 APO 8999.- 3649.- AF 300/4.0 APO 1899.- 999.95 AF 400/4.5 APO 3499.- 1899.95 AF 500/8.0 REFLEX 1199.- 479.95 NIKON F-601 679.- F-601 QD 779.- F-50 549.- F-50 QD 649.- F-70 849.- F-70 QD 979.- F-90 X 1649.- Grip MB-10 199.- F-5 4750.- AF 18/2.8 D 2599.- 1009.95 AF 20/2.8 D 1069.- 444.95 AF 24/2.8 D 699.- 299.95 AF 28/2.8 D 479.- 199.95 AF 28/1.4 D 3729.- 1474.95 AF 35/2.0 D 679.- 274.95 AF 50/1.8 199.- 94.95 AF 50/1.4 D 589.- 269.95 AF 60/2.8 D Micro 839.- 336.95 AF 85/1.8 D 799.- 339.95 AF 105/2.8 D Micro 1369.- 549.95 AF 135/2.0 DC 2299.- 889.95 AF 180/2.8 D ED-IF 1699.- 649.95 AF 200/4.0 D Micro 2799.- 1159.95 AF 28-70/3.5-4.5 D 679.- 329.95 AF 28-80/3.5-5.6 D 399.- 194.95 AF 35-70/2.8 D 1369.- 579.95 AF 35-80/4.0-5.6 D 279.- 98.95 AF 70-210/4.5-5.6 D 679.- 309.95 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Helmut FAUGEL | Tel. : +49 / 089 / 3299 2245 Max-Planck-Institut f. 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