From morgana.mat.uc.pt!news.rccn.net!Portugal.EU.net!mcvax!EU.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!mindspring!usenet Thu Jun 5 14:14:36 1997 Path: morgana.mat.uc.pt!news.rccn.net!Portugal.EU.net!mcvax!EU.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!mindspring!usenet From: baldycotton@mindspring.com Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.misc Subject: How to buy cameras by mail0order Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 19:55:09 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises, Inc. Lines: 82 Message-ID: <5mi2ik$nqq@camel1.mindspring.com> Reply-To: baldycotton@mindspring.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ip172.newark3.nj.pub-ip.psi.net X-Server-Date: 28 May 1997 19:55:00 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Every single day there are posts in these newsgroups from people who have been cheated by certain mail-order stores. Before you purchase by mail-order, do the following… 1. Know what you want to buy. If they don’t have it, say "thanks" and hang up. Don’t let someone on the phone talk you into a "bargain" that you are not knowledgeable about. You WILL regret it. NEVER let them talk you into a product you are not familiar and comfortable with. It WILL be inferior. 2. Read this newsgroup and ask for advice about equipment, prices, shipping charges, and any alternatives. You will get good advice! It drives all of us more experienced photographers and equipment buyers crazy to keep reading posts saying "I think I was just ripped-off." It is avoidable! Learn first, buy later. We like helping! 3. Always purchase by charge card! Use Visa, Mastercard, American Express, whatever, but be certain you can call the card company and get help if you think the store is trying to dupe you. Don’t give them your charge card number until you are absolutely certain you are ready to buy. Never purchase by check, until you have established the honesty and integrity of the dealers from whom you are buying. 4. When you start the conversation, ask for the salesman’s name. 5. Ask if it is all definitely in stock. Ask if it will be shipped immediately. If it is on back-order, cancel the order and call back after you expect the product to be available. Otherwise, they may bill you today and ship it to you in six months, if at all. 6. Ask if it is new, and if it has a USA warranty. (Assuming you live in the US) 7. Ask what the return policy is. If you have read their advertisement in a magazine, look for printed information on the return policy. 8. Ask them what the shipping charges will be. They may not be able to give you an "exact" price, but they will give you an estimated price. If it sounds too high, cancel the order. 9. Ask them how soon you will receive your order. 10 to 12 days is reasonable. 10. For safety, you can use a fax to get your pricing, availability, and warranty information. That way, you will have a hard copy for the record. If they will not communicate by fax, take your business elsewhere. You can use the fax to dispute charges with the card company if you need to. 11. Be polite, and expect them to be polite. Expect them to answer your questions patiently, but understand that they don’t have all day to explain features, etc. Be reasonable. You should know all this before you call. If they are abusive, tell them so, and hang up. 12. If you don’t receive your entire order, call and ask why. If you don’t receive the balance within a few days, cancel the balance. Call your card company and tell them you have done so. 13. If your products are defective, incomplete, no warranty cards, etc., call and tell them you are returning it. Then, return it immediately by registered mail or UPS. 14. Watch out for those add-ons. Be grateful if the salesman recommends you buy a battery for your new camera, but if he suggests things that you are wary about, filters, flash, etc., say "No thank you. I can’t afford that yet", then do your homework before buying it. Some of the stores that are most highly recommended by users of this group are: B&H Photo, New York City Camera World, Oregon Del’s Camera, California Keh Camera Brokers, Georgia Adorama, New York City Charlotte Camera, North Carolina Many writers have complained about the following stores. It is recommended that you do not do business with them: Cambridge Camera Exchange, New York City Smile Photo, New York City Focus Camera, New York City Beach Photo, Maine, New Jersey, Florida Wall Street Camera, New York City (some good reviews also) Su’s, New Jersey Abe’s of Maine Honest Abe, New York City CCI, New York City My personal experience is only with B&H, who was wonderful, and Cambridge, who lied to me. The rest I’ve gleaned from reading the NG. I’ll try to post this often for the benefit of new readers. Comments are welcome. Dave